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05 May 2009 @ 12:01 pm
On the Man Telling You "No": Where "the Man" Also = You.  
I was inspired to write today's entry by a thread on the children's writer forums over at Verla Kay's, aka the Blueboards. I hang out there pretty frequently, and over the weekend, someone posted a thread wondering whether they should stop writing. They had been getting lukewarm reviews of their books already out and were felt like if that was their future, they weren't sure they wanted to go on -- it wasn't the life they'd imagined for their books and themselves. And they were looking at the instant big hits and feeling discouraged.

I already posted my response to that particular situation on the thread there, but it made me want to babble momentarily about self-doubt, self-confidence, and creative types. And how creative types react to negativity.

It seems to me that in the course of my travels as a colored pencil instructor and portrait artist and author that I've encountered two types of creative people. The ones that get crushed when they get told "no" or when someone close to them gets what they really wanted or when life events come up and get in the way of their creative life, and those that seem to actually feed off the negative events and turn them into positive things.

The thing is, as a writer, you need to be the second. It's a business where "no" is the default answer: agents looked for a reason to reject, editors just not thrilled with a project, critique partners telling you your latest project is just not salable, etc. And it's a business where jealousy is rampant. You slave away for years on a project, and someone else writes a book in 3 months. You submit to endless agents and get endless rejections, and a member of your f-list gets four agent offers in two weeks. You sell your book for two thousand dollars, and your friend sells hers for six figures. You don't get a tour, someone else does. It is too, too easy to compare yourself to the writer in the next blog over. And then, finally, there is the stuff that always gets in the way of writing: kids, money, time, always time.

And I watch people get crushed under this weight every day. It literally eats them alive, the negativity. But here's what I've figured out.

You'll only ever be as good as you tell yourself you can be.

If you tell yourself that you're never going to get better, guess what, you won't. I can one hundred percent guarantee yourself that you won't. You will never make a goal that you never set. And you almost always make the negative ones you set for yourself. And telling yourself you're not getting any better is setting that as a goal. Not to get too airy-fairy here, but as a writer, you ought to know this: words have power. Choose the right ones. Turn the negativity of your doubts into a positive challenge for yourself. I will get better. I will learn to characterize better. I will unlock the secrets of beautiful prose, stunning character growth, etc. The next book will be better.

And then, the jealousy. Look. There's always going to be someone better than you, richer than you, published faster than you, toured more, whatever. Always. Instead of pretending that they aren't there, or wasting a single second on jealousy, turn it around into a positive. It's what I do. When I see someone who has gotten something that I'd love for myself, I grin because someone else's day just got made, and then I let myself ackowledge that I'd love that for myself, too. And then I figure out how to make it happen. Jealousy is infinitely useless. It's worse than useless. It will destroy you, I promise. But goal setting and have someone else make a concrete example of that goal? Completely positive. Absolutely better than having an abstract goal. There it is, right in front of you! Before I got published, I used to google for people's publication stories. I loved reading them. Because one day, I knew it would be me.

Don't give jealousy a single second of your time.

And finally, life events. I know how hard it can be to write when you're low, when there's money problems, when you have no time. I have two little kids, remember? And I was working full time when I wrote LAMENT and SHIVER. It would have been so, so easy to just say "this is too hard. I don't have the time. I give up." And that would've been the end. But those unwritten words festering inside me would've eventually poisoned me. I need to write. I wanted to get published. More than anything, I wanted to do it full time. So when my husband said "you have two minutes here and two minutes there and two minutes over there -- find a way to squash them together", I knew he was right. I carved out two hours ever Sunday and wrote 5-10K words each week. Because my brain knew that that time every Sunday was always writing time, it worked on my story all week long and saved up a huge burst of energy for that one little time slot. I made a positive out of a negative and . . . yeah, now I write full-time, and I can actually pay the bills when they come in. Very exciting.

So please, creative types. I know you're passionate and fragile and volatile -- that's what makes us us -- but don't let yourself be one of the thousands of people who let negativity stop them or even slow them.

And now I'm going to go. It's hard for me to sustain seriousness for this long.


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Jo[info]jo_no_anne on May 5th, 2009 04:47 pm (UTC)
"It's a business where "no" is the default answer"

I love that statement.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 04:58 pm (UTC)
And it's very true!
cathschaffstump: poppinscartoon[info]cathschaffstump on May 5th, 2009 04:49 pm (UTC)
Well written! I would like to link to this, if possible. I think it's great advice for so many writers out there. It also pretty much mirrors what I believe, so that's a bonus.

Catherine

Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 04:58 pm (UTC)
I'd be flattered to be linked, Catherine!
(Anonymous) on May 5th, 2009 05:03 pm (UTC)
Well said! I'm firmly in the second camp of people ... I feed off the negatives, which might also be a diagnosable condition, but there it is. In my lower moments, it sometimes seems that the barriers set in my way have been particularly high, but then it probably seems that way for everybody.

On jealousy, though. Here's what I always think: "I couldn't have written that book anyway, so what's the point of envying an impossibility?" Art is such a personal extension of ourselves -- my voice is my voice, your voice is your voice. Never shall the twain meet. So instead of longing to occupy a space I can never fill (namely, the space already firmly occupied by someone else), I draw strength from the success stories and the publication stories. I read them all the time, and I love them. I think it's great that no two people follow the same path to the bookshelves, and great that people really do get picked from obscurity to write big, beautiful books that keep me awake at night.

LurkerMonkey
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 05:11 pm (UTC)
I think it's great that no two people follow the same path to the bookshelves, and great that people really do get picked from obscurity to write big, beautiful books that keep me awake at night.

Exactly!
Elissa Cruz[info]elissacruz on May 5th, 2009 05:03 pm (UTC)
Amen, Maggie.

It's the old "When life gives you lemons..." analogy. You can either choose to make lemonade or choke on the rinds.

As for me, I've already pulled out the pitcher and water.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 05:12 pm (UTC)
Hahaha! I don't like lemonade, though. Maybe I'll make pound cake instead . . .
Kathleen Foucart: Hearts[info]kathleenfoucart on May 5th, 2009 05:05 pm (UTC)
Thank you Maggie! This is a fantastic entry and exactly what I've been trying to figure out how to verbalize. I feel the same way, but it's so hard to say any of it when I'm just starting (about to begin querying, eep!) & don't know how I'll feel even a month from now. I just hope I can keep up the positive attitude I'm trying so hard to cultivate. I'm adding this to memories so I can remind myself!
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 05:13 pm (UTC)
I know you can! I used to love querying - so exciting, so many possibilities. I never minded the rejections either. I guess in my head I thought of them as physical examples that I was actually doing something.

And you're welcome!
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theladywolf[info]theladywolf on May 5th, 2009 05:06 pm (UTC)
I think us "creative types" need these encouraging posts every so often. It makes a welcome respite amongst all the "my writerly life is brilliant," posts. :) Not from you I hasten to add, just blogs in general.
Thanks very much for posting this. It makes the mountain that little bit easier to keep climbing.

Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 05:14 pm (UTC)
Hahaha -- no, I know what you mean. And I am leery of posting these sorts of posts too often lest I come off too Pollyanna or preachy, but today just felt like one of those days when I needed to!
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quietselkie[info]quietselkie on May 5th, 2009 05:17 pm (UTC)
:-)

Thank you.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 05:19 pm (UTC)
:) You're welcome.
Stephanie: Karavan's Dawn[info]allthelivesofme on May 5th, 2009 05:42 pm (UTC)
I so needed to read this right now. :-) Thanks.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 05:44 pm (UTC)
Then I'm glad I posted it! You're welcome!
sometimegoddess[info]sometimegoddess on May 5th, 2009 05:43 pm (UTC)
Sing it, sister!
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 05:44 pm (UTC)
*grin*
Pam[info]pamm on May 5th, 2009 05:58 pm (UTC)
This is so true. And you can never predict the future. I used to be one of those who'd wish my books would do better and then lo! Something amazing happens that you can't predict. What if I had quit when I wanted to early on?

And things don't always go well even when you're in the midst of what seems to be serious success. The stress is almost unbearable--to the point of exhaustion. There are so many variables to worry about.

I love your positive post. We all need that reminder when things don't seem bright!!!
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 06:00 pm (UTC)
Thank you! and yes! There is always stress, no matter how well you are doing, so it's best to learn to manage it when you have lots of other people to sympathize with you. :D
E. London Setterby: swamp-tree[info]london_setterby on May 5th, 2009 06:05 pm (UTC)
Yayy :) Thanks for posting this. I've been struggling with my self-confidence a lot lately, especially now that I'm getting my first novel ready for submission. It's nice to hear from someone who understands this grab-bag of feelings. I don't know any novelists in real life, and, as much as I love the internet, it doesn't always present an accurate picture of reality... and it provides a *lot* of people for me to compare myself with.
Anyway.... Thanks. :)
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 06:07 pm (UTC)
You're welcome. And yeah. Self-doubt continues forever and ever and ever and you have to figure it out at all levels. My crit partners get to hear me wail and moan now when I'm low and whoop and air punch when I'm high. ;)
wldhrsjen3[info]wldhrsjen3 on May 5th, 2009 06:07 pm (UTC)
Wow. Just the reminder I needed today. Thanks for giving me back my butt-kick. :D
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 06:08 pm (UTC)
*grin* You're welcome.
damihjva[info]damihjva on May 5th, 2009 06:15 pm (UTC)
That you posted this today ... it has to be fate stapling the clue to my forehead.

Last night, the hubs and I had a very similar conversation to what you and yours had. So, today I'm looking at my Google Calendar to figure out time slots to write in.

I'm constantly saying I don't have enough time, but my calendar is telling me different. I feel kinda silly now.

Thanks, Maggie!
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 06:26 pm (UTC)
You're welcome. And yeah, it's amazing how we can talk ourselves into disbelieving how much time we have. I STILL do it.
maggie l. wood[info]faerie_writer on May 5th, 2009 06:43 pm (UTC)
Great insights, Maggie! Thanks for sharing. :D
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 06:50 pm (UTC)
You're welcome!
radicaleel[info]radicaleel on May 5th, 2009 06:46 pm (UTC)
It sounds like being a professional fine artist and selling your work to galleries & the public has many parallels to being a writer and selling your work to publishers & the public.

I'm not a writer (well, not "officially" like you anyway)--I'm a professional painter, and this post resonates with me so much. You're awesome. Is it okay if I link to it too?
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 06:52 pm (UTC)
Absolutely! Please do!

And yes, I learned sooo much from being a professional artist that carries over to being a professional writer. That creativity is not something that you wait for, that you have to be your own best cheerleader, that you have to relish the fight and challenge inherent in creative careers or you have to run the other way.
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cynleitichsmith[info]cynleitichsmith on May 5th, 2009 07:09 pm (UTC)
Rock you!
I'm so featuring this link on Cynsations (if you don't mind!).
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 07:12 pm (UTC)
Re: Rock you!
I would be amazingly flattered, Cyn!
Happy Rowan[info]fairgoldberry on May 5th, 2009 07:34 pm (UTC)
*hugs*

I love how much work you put into encouraging other writers and creative folks, really I do. I hope you get back in full all the good karma you're building when you post things like this.

And it does help. In the last year or so, what with the Merry Fates challenges and the nice things you all say, and in general with reading about how you feel about your writing and your conversations about how you occasionally get frustrated and down a little about some aspect of how it's going (but usually finish the "I hit a wall" post with "...and then I did this thing or one of my writing partners had this insight and I got back up and going again..."), my attitude about my own writing has really changed.

It's gone from "No one would care to read that, so why bother even writing it?" to "No one would pay to read that, but I might as well write it anyway," to "You know, whether anyone would pay to read it or not, it's still worth writing and maybe if I write it down then I can come back to it later, work on it some more, and turn it *into* something I might not be afraid to send off to people who might consider giving me money for it." I have a folder of stories I've written in the last year, and some of them I've gone back to revise three or four times and had a couple of friends look over for me, and one of these days I will be ready to actually let them out of my sight (they're ones I didn't put on LJ because I think they're not supposed to appear in public if you want to try to have them published?). I may get rejection letters, and I'm OK with that, but if I don't and someone ever actually says, "Hey, this thing you did is good enough to be worth money," I'll pretty much owe that to the Merry Fates.

Much love,
Rowan
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 07:59 pm (UTC)
Wow. This is sort of . . . amazing. I'm so, so happy to be this inspiring, in concert with the other Merry Sisters.
stacey_jay[info]stacey_jay on May 5th, 2009 07:36 pm (UTC)
Amen. To all that stuff. Never quit, never compare, never get bogged down in trying to please everyoen, just keep plugging and constantly trying to improve upon that last book. It's what keeps me sane and productive.

Great post!!

Stacey Jay
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 08:00 pm (UTC)
Thanks! It's deceptively simple.
britas[info]black_mascara on May 5th, 2009 08:01 pm (UTC)
Nicely said, thank you for this :).
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 08:01 pm (UTC)
You're so welcome.
susanadrian[info]susanadrian on May 5th, 2009 08:33 pm (UTC)
Thanks, Maggie! I completely (and utterly) agree. In fact, I've ranted similarly before myself, though not as well. :)

I linked to this post on Twitter!
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 08:47 pm (UTC)
Yay! Tweeted! Thanks, Susan!
jessica_shea[info]jessica_shea on May 5th, 2009 08:34 pm (UTC)
This is a fabulous post, Maggie! As I get closer to querying, I'm both terrified and excited, but what you said here is a great reminder. Especially "But those unwritten words festering inside me would've eventually poisoned me." That is so true. So no matter what happens with the querying, I'm in this for good.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 08:47 pm (UTC)
Awesome. Just hold onto that! I loved querying -- so exciting to be doing something that . . . I don't know . . . mattered. That sounds silly, but it was tangible proof of my work spent writing, even if I got rejections.
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Gina, Elfriend: Writing - Yellow Cup[info]estellye on May 5th, 2009 09:15 pm (UTC)
Some excellent points, here! What a great reminder today. Well said.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 09:19 pm (UTC)
Thanks!
edgyauthor[info]edgyauthor on May 5th, 2009 09:57 pm (UTC)
I couldn't agree with you more. It's hard for me to understand sometimes how certain writers take rejection so personally. (Then again, I'm a pessimist, so I tend to expect rejection for myself. XD) I appreciate all the negative moments, because I know once I finally reach a positive one, the achievemnt will mean so much more to me than had it come easily.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 5th, 2009 10:02 pm (UTC)
It's true! If we got it easily, would we celebrate as much? No way.
patesden[info]patesden on May 5th, 2009 10:35 pm (UTC)
Great post, Maggie--and your post on the blueboards was spot on as well.

It's funny, the longer I'm in this game, the less I fall prey to jealousy. I don't care how easy it looks, writing and getting published isn't for the weak of heart. Even people who have success right away, sooner or later face tough times and have to get through them or fall by the wayside.

Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 6th, 2009 12:15 am (UTC)
Thanks, Pat! Yep, I keep thinking I'm going to hit the part in my writing career where there isn't anything to stress about and . . . um, nope, there's always something. ;)
Tiffany Trent[info]tltrent on May 5th, 2009 10:54 pm (UTC)
I feel absolutely the same about jealousy. Why waste the time and energy on that? Go forth and *make something* with it, sez I.

Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on May 6th, 2009 12:15 am (UTC)
And you practice what you preach, which is why you are awesome.