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02 November 2010 @ 11:17 am
My NaNoWriMo Anti-Pep-Talk  
Today is gonna be a rant.

This time last year-ish, I wrote a Dear John letter to NaNoWriMo. For those of you who don't know, NaNoWriMo is short for National Novel Writing Month. Every year, thousands of aspiring writers sign up for the challenge, which is to write an entire 50,000 word novel during the month of November. The goal is to get a complete novel that you can then revise at your leisure, to prove to yourself that you can reach "The End."

It sounds like my sort of thing, doesn't it? I mean, it hits all those big Maggie points. Setting goals, concrete results, sitting your butt in the chair and just doing it.

I really dislike it.

As my Dear John letter points out, it really doesn't work for me because of my writing style. But more than that, I think it encourages crappy writing and superficial novel-ing. I think it makes you a slave to wordcount instead of focusing on pretty prose, and that that is not something that can be fixed in revising without totally throwing out what you've already written. Now, now, I know what you all are going to say, because many people have already said it. When I rant about NaNoWriMo, I inevitably get three rebuttals:

1. But Maggie, I need to know that I can get to the end.
2. But Maggie, I need a deadline.
3. But Maggie, Jennifer Lynn Barnes writes her novels in 19 days.

Okay, here's my rebuttal to those rebuttals.

1. You can get to the end. Don't be ridiculous. You don't need a gimmick to prove it to yourself. You need to stop making excuses and just write the damn book. Everyone can finish a novel, just like everyone can finish a term paper. Just like everyone can finish a sandwich. You pick up the sandwich and you eat it. For me, I had 30 unfinished novels during my teen years, until I discovered that I had to have the very last scene in my head before I started. For you, it might require an outline. Or a synopsis. Or some other method to eating the sandwich. But trust me, you can definitely do it, whether you pick the crusts off or not. So there, I've solved problem one. You wanted to know if you can get to the end? You can. There ya go. Now you know.

2. I get this, I really do. Because if I don't have a deadline, I wander around and make cookie dough and lay on the floor and listen to music and play my piano and run up and down my stairs instead of writing. But a month is a patently ridiculous deadline. Why make something difficult -- writing a novel -- more difficult? That's like saying "I'm determined to learn how to speak Spanish. So I'm going to read this Spanish textbook . . . BACKWARDS." Why? It doesn't make it any better. You're never going to have to speak Spanish backwards. Why not make it National Novel Writing Quarter? A three month deadline is utterly doable and gives you much more time for craft and to learn your process. Give yourself a deadline, sure, but how about one that is not Sheer Insanity Farewell My Home Life and Bathroom Breaks? Set it with your friends so that you're accountable and voila. Voici. Go to it.

3. Yes, I know she does. But (and I've told her this) Jennifer Lynn Barnes is an alien. The fact that she writes her novels in 19 days is shocking because 99% of the authorial world does not. The statistics are against NaNoWriMo being your natural habitat. That means that you're basically trying to write your novel with your dominant hand tied behind your back.

And the most important thing that people seem to forget during NaNoWriMo? Writing a novel is supposed to be enjoyable. It's not a term paper. Writing a novel is supposed to be about reflection and entertainment and introspection. What about NaNoWriMo encourages that? By forcing yourself to do it at gunpoint, it seems to me that you take away the reason to write in the first place.

That is my anti-pep-talk for NaNoWriMo.




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Jennifer Lynn Barnesjenlyn_b on November 2nd, 2010 05:09 pm (UTC)
I won't contest the whole I'm-an-alien thing, but I do feel like I should disclaim that I only wrote ONE of my books in nineteen days. 4-6 weeks is much more typical for one of my first drafts, and some books take longer.

As different as the writing process can be for every writer, I sometimes think it can be just as different for every project. And for different parts of different projects. There are times when PUTTING WORDS ON THE PAGE, no matter how bad those words might be, is exactly what I need to do to figure out where I'm going or what I'm doing wrong, and there are times when I have to get the words exactly right for everything else to fall into place, and times when I need to step away from a project for a week and take lots of bubble baths. My mileage varies so much just with me that I can't imagine any one thing working (or not working) for everyone.

I've never actually done NaNo, but I'm sure there are people out there who enjoy it and people it works for, just like I'm sure that there are people who wouldn't enjoy and/or benefit from it at all. I think the key thing is being kind to yourself and giving yourself permission to discover (and change and rediscover and so on) your own process. There's not a lot of flexibility built into NaNo, so while I'm all for people giving it a try if that's what floats their boat, I also think it's important to listen to what your writer-brain is telling you, and if it's telling you "I don't like this" or "this isn't working for me," modify the goal, or the process, or whatever you need to modify to get something that works for you and DON'T feel bad about it.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 2nd, 2010 05:37 pm (UTC)
LOL. Duly noted on the alien front -- and 4-6 weeks does make you seem remarkably more human. >:D

I think you nailed it with the flexibility thing. I tell people I'd be happy with NaNoWriSeason instead. It would give all that sense of community and a deadline while being infinitely more practical, I'd think.
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βrittonova: objects . pretty [p]ink ribbonbrittonova on November 2nd, 2010 05:10 pm (UTC)
This is my first time commenting, and I'm not sure if you'll get a chance to read it, but I thought I'd give it a go anyway!

I completely agree with you. Of course, it's taken me some time to admit this to myself. I've tried to participate in NaNoWriMo for YEARS. Even this year, I thought, "I'm going to do it." And then it was the first of the month, and now it's the second, and my husband's nagging me to write, and I haven't started yet, and ... !!! But, then I read this, and relaxed a little. It reminded me that writing is a more intricate process than that - it's not taking a deep breath, and leaping off a cliff, wondering what the ending has in store for you (either a warm ocean or Jagged Rocks of Death). It's an experience to be sure, but I think it does involve a little more forethought than simply hoping for the best.

In any case, maybe they should rename it NaNoPlaMo - National Novel Planning Month. Thirty days to plan a novel somehow seems more decent.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:00 pm (UTC)
30 days to plan a novel is a fantastic idea (well for those of us who are planners). I can't tell you how hard it was for me to admit that NaNo didn't work for me -- I work best with hard deadlines so I felt like a real failure every time it didn't work.
Xjaevaext_307104 on November 2nd, 2010 05:11 pm (UTC)
Habitats r us
nanowrimo obviously isn't for you.


But that's okay because you have least two good books published (I say that because I've only read two and I'm a fan. the other two are on my list)

Working in concert with others who share my goal, focusing on wordcount, on butt-glued-to-chair-ness works for me. Despite your bemoanings of it not being a natural habitat and encouraging bad writing it still encourages practice of writing which is what it takes to perfect your craft. You have to have bad writing to get to good writing. November gets a big chunk of that out of the way. And a rubuttal of your rubutal to the rubuttals about natural habitat is that sometimes its good to expand your living space. (you know, just in case excess mining wipes out your first habitat)

Sincerely,
A fan of you
And
Nanowrimo
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 2nd, 2010 05:32 pm (UTC)
Re: Habitats r us
This amused me, by the way. Muchly. And as I said on Twitter, if only it was longer, I could possibly still be friends with NaNo.
scampii091scampii091 on November 2nd, 2010 05:20 pm (UTC)
I have to say that I completely agree with you about NaNoWriMo. I've never done it before, but read a lot about it whilst I was doing Laurie Halse Anderson's WFMAD this August. I live for those moments upon reflection and editing my work where I grin wildly at something one of my characters has said, or a tiny action they did which is so symbolic, or times when I'm lost so deep in my writing that I forget where and who I am. I'd hate for that to be taken away from me just because I had to worry about all the other words that had to fill up the page.

I think your books are amazing, and if NaNoWriMo is threatening them, I'd be glad to write a letter to him supporting yours. Though, I think you did a pretty good job - I don't think he'll be pestering you anytime soon. All the best with your Secret Novel - can't wait to read it when it comes out!

I too love Iron & Wine - if you like them, you might like Bon Iver, they're sort of similar.

Becky
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:01 pm (UTC)
I love Bon Ivor too!

And yes -- it sounds like you work so much like me. Those tiny actions that become symbolic, especially.
Happy Rowanfairgoldberry on November 2nd, 2010 05:22 pm (UTC)
I tried NaNo several times, and it doesn't work for me for a variety of reasons, first and foremost among them that it takes the focus from getting a story told and puts it on checking off ticky boxes.

There is a story I'm telling. I've been telling it for several years now, whenever it asks to be told. It may take the rest of my life to tell it. I've accepted that.

Among many of the oldest legends of the fae, there are cautions about naming, owning, defining a wild thing. This story is my personal piece of faerie, and if I tried to write it in 30 days, I would find myself with nothing but leaves at sunrise.

That's not to say no one can do it, no one should do it, no one can benefit from it. It is, though, to say that while it may serve the aspiring professional writer as an impetus to make writing every day a habit, NaNoWriMo rarely serves the story or the storyteller very well.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:02 pm (UTC)
I obviously agree (though you put it far more succintly). I think if NaNo is about the story (and what I've learned from these posts is that usually, it is not), then it fails.
Tinker Faye: nano - plot?pixie_hollow on November 2nd, 2010 05:24 pm (UTC)
I'm actually really upset by this post. I do NaNoWriMo because it helps me get off my ass and actually sit down at write because without that pressure of getting it done I won't do it, and all that, which yes, you have already refuted, but for me the upset really comes from the fact that you made of point of saying that NaNoWriMo is not enjoyable, when the fact is that it is a giant flaming ball of fun. Getting the chance to go out and meet up with a giant group of people who all have the same goal as you and all love writing enough to attempt the insanity that is 50,000 words in 30 days and making new friends through the experience and all the parties that get held in your region throughout the month.

Yeah, i just wanted to point out that NaNo is fun, it's practically the most fun I have all year.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 2nd, 2010 05:34 pm (UTC)
Oh, don't be upset, please! I'm glad that you have fun with it. Fun wasn't quite what I meant you'd miss, though -- me interacting with my great LJ writers community is fun, for instance. But me writing a novel and really getting into the zone and that space that (for me) only comes after at least a few months of planning and working . . . I can't get that out of NaNo. Now, if it was NaNoWriSeason, instead of month, let's do this thing.
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attackfishattackfish on November 2nd, 2010 05:41 pm (UTC)
I too don't do well with NaNoWriMo, mostly for the reasons you described, and also because it's finals and mid terms month, so for me, it's NaPaWriMo, national paper writing month.

So I have an alternate custom. As a way of procrastinating on my papers, I finish every short story I have lying around half-written on my computer. I end up writing more than 50,000 on the papers, so writing about 10,000 on the short stories still feels like a big victory, and i end up with a clean slate except for my novel and longfic, so after it's over, I don't have any excuses not to write them.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:03 pm (UTC)
It is a terrible time of year for it, isn't it! I love that idea of finishing the short stories, though. What a brilliant twist on it.
Katesithereandread on November 2nd, 2010 05:42 pm (UTC)
I *get* your POV on NaNoWriMo and it is nice sometimes to get another perspective when all I've been doing for the past month is going to the NaNo boards. But I like the idea of NaNo more than anything. For those who have never written a book before, the idea that thousands of people around the world building a community gives the confidence needed to actually get a book written.

In the past two days I can guarantee I have written some crap but the process has been awesome. My characters have taken me to places I never would have dreamed and it is because I have the deadline/word count pushing me and also the fact that NaNo discourages editing right away. In the past, if I got stuck on a chapter I would not move an inch until it was perfect. NaNoWriMo is a great tool to use once a year to actually get your butt in a chair and do it. I think later on after having several books under my belt, my process will change, but for right now it works.

But thanks for your opinion, I like hearing all sides. Plus I learned a new fact about Jennifer Lynn Barnes :)
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 2nd, 2010 05:56 pm (UTC)
Well, see, I don't hate the concept. I hate the time frame. I think it's unnecessarily short and limiting. Even two months would make most people turn out a better working draft while still getting to the end and getting community.
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hiddenwerehiddenwere on November 2nd, 2010 05:51 pm (UTC)
NaNoWriMo
Thank you for sharing this, Maggie! I was going to attempt the NaNoWriMo this month but when I sat down to write, I forgot what I wanted to say because I was overwriting for the sake of word count! It sucked!

I sat on my bed and was looking at what I wrote and almost cried at what I wrote. I love writing, but yesterday made it seem like a chore. I decided to quit for the day and went on facebook where, sure enough, there was your Dear John letter to NaNoWriMo! It really encouraged me to write the way I love to! So thank you, Maggie. Thank you for putting my thoughts into words with your rant!

Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:04 pm (UTC)
Re: NaNoWriMo
Oh, I'm glad that I could be helpful. I really, really hated deciding that NaNo didn't work for me, because tight deadlines often help me, but in this case? I felt awful.
ext_307154 on November 2nd, 2010 05:58 pm (UTC)
NaNo doesn't work for everyone and I'm sure there are a lot of people who think they're going to get a publishable novel out it. I've never thought of it that way. I've always felt like it was a nice challenge and at the end of it all I'd have a nice rough draft to work on editing. The novel I finished last year is on it's second edit at the moment. I had a blast last year, it never felt like a term paper, but then again I took days off here and there so I wasn't cutting my family off.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:04 pm (UTC)
Taking days off is really important, I've found. And yes, I've discovered that your view of NaNo is held by most NaNo participants -- that it's a challenge and not a strict publishing goal.
music_lover3music_lover3 on November 2nd, 2010 06:06 pm (UTC)
Great post!
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:04 pm (UTC)
Thanks.
Ceciliahanna_yuki on November 2nd, 2010 06:06 pm (UTC)
I'm currently attending NaNo for the second time. At times, I am a slave to the word count. *laugh* But I still try to keep everything in a place of making sense. It is true that the novels that are written are crappy, but it lets us know that not all novels are ready to go first swing. :)

Either way, I still enjoy the mere satisfaction of making the daily goal and that I can do a decent story within a time limit to get it out of my brain. Besides, if I want to, I can give it an overhaul and exorcism. XD

A novel in 19 days? That's sheer insanity. Someone has way too much time on her hands.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:05 pm (UTC)
Well, she has a lot of time on her hands left over after 19 days. ;)
niaraie.blogspot.com on November 2nd, 2010 06:14 pm (UTC)
I can understand where you're coming from if you are referring to the people who just want to say they put out 50K words, even if it's drivel. But a tight deadline of 30 days works sometimes. When you spend months writing a novel you do have time to reflect and brainstorm, but sometimes it leads to procrastination and then the novel is never finished. So if once a year someone wants to do outline/research weeks before Nov. then push out a quick 1st draft novel for fun,to get it off his brain and onto the page, it sounds like a good idea.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:05 pm (UTC)
I suppose that's true, depending on how much planning you've done beforehand. Some people are fantastic outliners.
valeriekwritesvaleriekwrites on November 2nd, 2010 06:21 pm (UTC)
I remember your rant from last year and I totally got it. I did NaNo for the first time last year mainly to see if I could, and because I'd had a story building itself in the back of my mind for months. Like you I've learned that I can't write until I know my ending. I don't need to know EVERYTHING but I need the highlights and the last scene. Armed with those things and a group of excited supportive blueboarders I finished my draft in mid-December. It was fun and I learned to sit down and write every day. But I can see how, as I become a better writer each new ms will take longer to create a first draft, and that first draft will be better thought out and a more complete draft. So I see where you're coming from. NaNo gave me confidence, discipline, and a draft that needed a lot of work. It was a great experience as a newbie. I wanted to try it again this year but already I see that it's not going to be as helpful. I need more time to think through my story. Still if I knew my ending I would probably go for it!
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:06 pm (UTC)
That's really true -- every draft tends to take me longer . . . but it's also better at the end of it. I think that means that each novel ends UP better, too, though.
peskywhistpawpeskywhistpaw on November 2nd, 2010 06:25 pm (UTC)
I'm really glad you made this post. I always feel guilty for not doing NaNoWriMo, especially because I've seen other authors I like support and do it. But I've never been able to bring myself to believe in it, because, like you said, "it encourages crappy writing and superficial novel-ing." I know it's supposed to be all about the revision later, but I feel like you're just creating more work for yourself by writing a really crappy fifty thousand words as opposed to a few thousand really good words plus several thousand relatively decent words.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:06 pm (UTC)
Depending on how you write, it definitely does. For me? DEFINITELY does.
June Stormcrowjunestormcrow on November 2nd, 2010 06:41 pm (UTC)
Sigh. To think I was going to buy one of your books the other week. Shiver grabbed me with the cover. Glad I bought what I was at the store for and walked away.

I despise writers who think their process is the only way to get a good book. You imply that by doing NaNoWriMo on a yearly basis I write crap, because your fast writing is crap. Maybe some of us don't have to labor over it all that much. Overwrought edited in progress writing tends to feel pretty dead on the page to me.

No writer has the exact same process as the next. There is no need for all the hate on NaNoWriMo just because you feel left out. So high school.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 2nd, 2010 07:25 pm (UTC)
Really? REALLY?

I'm sorry that you're offended, but I have to say, I think I spelled out very clearly on the blog why this didn't work for ME, and furthermore, in the comments, clarified that it was the time element that I thought made it unnecessarily constrictive for most people. I'd be entirely behind the concept if it was even two months instead of three.

And no, I didn't imply anything about your writing -- or about Jennifer Lynn Barnes' writing, for that matter. Did you notice that she also commented on this post, and she wrote a novel in less than a month? She wasn't offended.

Every month, I write short fiction in one hour for my other blog. That's fast writing, I'd say. Also, I'd modestly like to think it's not totally crappy. But I also think that I've been doing it awhile to know my process, so I get faster at it. I'm guessing from your comment that you're not an out of the chute newbie at this either.

The only thing really high school about this? This: "No writer has the exact same process as the next. There is no need for all the hate on NaNoWriMo just because you feel left out. So high school."

Really? That's . . . what you took from my blog?
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Mikkaymikkaybear on November 2nd, 2010 06:51 pm (UTC)
I think it's fun. It's stressful, yes, but a good kind of stress. Usually, I never get to the ends of stories because I get too hung up on editing right away. Nano helps me break from that, and I honestly believe it makes me a better writer in the long run. Definitely not in December, but I always find I've learned something a few months down the road. It's a learning experience, and that's why I do it.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:10 pm (UTC)
That's a good enough reason.
mad_hatter104 on November 2nd, 2010 06:53 pm (UTC)
Congratulations. I am officially a convert :D
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:10 pm (UTC)
I am the anti-NaNo poster child, apparently.
Maureenelvenjaneite on November 2nd, 2010 07:33 pm (UTC)
I think that sometimes people turn NaNo into a kind of goal in and of itself. I did it in 2006-2008. The first year was particularly helpful for me in that I realized I could finish something that size. Now, that story is tucked away in a secluded folder of my computer and will never be seen again, but it was still a good experience. I'm still working on the 2007 story, but it has been pretty majorly revised.

The difference between me and the hard-core NaNoers is that I think you can grow out of NaNo, and I may done so. I signed up last year and didn't finish--I was revising and a senior in college, but I wanted to give myself the option if inspiration struck. I'm also signed up for this year, but I don't know that I'll actually be working much on that idea at the moment. Basically, I think it was a good kickstarting experience, but in terms of making myself sit down and write a little bit every day, it did absolutely nothing for me. I had to figure that discipline out on my own.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 2nd, 2010 07:51 pm (UTC)
I think this is a really good point. When I first started writing, I'd write drafts in a few weeks or a month. They were . . . um . . . not good books. I think that as you get further along, you tend to write more polished first drafts, with more nuance in them. It's hard for me to imagine, now, writing a first draft of the quality I wrote back then, and being happy with it.
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creepy twin: quill penfaerionette on November 2nd, 2010 07:49 pm (UTC)
I disagree. Just because the end product might not be considered "good" doesn't mean it's bad. Additionally, NaNoWriMo is fun and enjoyable for some people. I have fun doing, especially since I have several friends who are doing it too. We encourage and support each other. We discuss problems we're having and help each other through them.

I may not be the best writer, but I don't think that this challenge encourages me to produce bad writing just to meet a word count. I don't usually rush. I take my time despite the daily word count that I try to reach.

I agree that everyone can do it without participating in NaNoWriMo. I think it's obvious that many people have done it. However, everyone is different. Some people, like me, feel an extra surge of motivation just knowing that there's a deadline in the very near future. Some people may not even be good writers to begin with, so the quality of the product will differ from person to person anyway.

Personally, I think that if someone wants to write a story it shouldn't matter how he or she gets it done. NaNoWriMo also helps me to write on a daily basis because I don't always do that. I could do it without NaNoWriMo, but making myself write on a daily basis is still something I struggle with. I can write because I have a word count to meet for NaNoWriMo or I can write because I should. Either way, there's always the possibility that my words will be forced and the product will not be what I want it to be.

I can appreciate that we have different opinions on the subject, but I feel like you think people shouldn't do this because you personally think it's a bad way to write a novel.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 2nd, 2010 07:55 pm (UTC)
Hmm, I'm of two minds on this. I agree with you in that whatever your process is, whatever process that works, you should use it, and to hell with whatever other people say. The proof is in the pudding.

But I will say that it hurts my soul that there is so much emphasis in NaNo on quantity over quality. I think that success is so much more than "the end" -- it's about stretching your writing ability, not the number of words you've written. Which is why I am always quite swayed by the folks who say that they do NaNo as a way to get started, or they NaNo to edit, or they NaNo for the community. I feel like that's much more practical than such a very short time goal. I know so many people who feel like losers because they couldn't "win" NaNo. Well, the fault might not be theirs, but rather the fact that it's one month and not two.
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wanderingdreamr: kobatowanderingdreamr on November 2nd, 2010 07:50 pm (UTC)
I have to say that I disagree with what you're saying. For me I really need time set aside (like, months in advance set aside) to do much of anything and I use NaNo (and hopefully Script Frenzy/NaNoMango) for that time. I know my first draft sucks but at least it's all written out now and sitting there, waiting for me to edit it (although, since I haven't had a NaNoEdMo I haven't touched last year's story yet, oops). Then again, I found out that I could writer 1600 words a day no problem and I'm finding now that I can turn out 1600 words a day plus deal with the rest of my life so it doesn't feel like I'm rushing it (the pace feels downright luxurious compared to some of my art classes right now). I think most of my friends are doing NaNo for a similar reason, if we don't have a chance for people to MAKE us writer we're going to deal with everything else in life first and never get around to it.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 2nd, 2010 07:57 pm (UTC)
I get this, I do. But I still think that most writers could do NaNo much more successfully if it was two months long instead of one. 1600 words one day, then a day to think about what you're doing, then 1600 the next . . . well, that sounds like you might end up with a spiffier draft to me.
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sammyjones57sammyjones57 on November 2nd, 2010 07:59 pm (UTC)
I love all the different opinions this post has sparked!

For me, I LOVE the idea of NaNoWriMo. I love the thought of writing my little heart out and telling myself it's okay if this doesn't sound the greatest at the moment. But that's how I write most of the time and why I love going back over chapters later on down the line. I've found out in the past couple years for me if I don't keep truckin' through I keep going back and changing things and then my end really never comes around. But that's just my writing style. But I can see why with your writing style you don't like it and why it isn't your cup of tea.

And dude, 19 days to write a whole novel? Is she human? o_O!
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 9th, 2010 02:10 pm (UTC)
I also wrote a lot faster back when I started, which is easy to forget. Now I want more out of my first drafts.
aimeestates on November 2nd, 2010 08:04 pm (UTC)
Five years ago, I was one gung-ho newbie sap sucker for NaNo, but that's because I didn't know what the heck I was doing and just wanted to finish SOMETHING. This is the first year I thought, "Meh, sure, I'll type along. But winning is soooo pointless."

(I said that with my pompous scarf around my neck and my hipster satchel by my side, sadly)

*I did "win" the last two years, but I didn't win anything at all because the books were paper turds.

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maggie_writesmaggie_writes on November 2nd, 2010 08:20 pm (UTC)
NaNo is great for new or aspiring writers. Maybe not for published writers who have established a process. I think you're judging it unfairly.

Last year I did NaNo and it gave me a surge of confidence. It let me know that, yes, I could actually finish a book, instead of writing 20K on every new project and then abandoning it. This year I'm not doing it, because the confidence I got from last year is still inside of me, and I have NaNo to thank for that. I'm working on several projects, and I know I can finish them. Last year I was a ball of stress. I kept abandoning project after project, and now I feel much more secure in my writing.

Quantity over quality is not a bad thing if you're a newbie. Also, now that I'm more confident in my writing, 1600-1700 words a day seems like a piece of cake. Not daunting at all.
Maggie Stiefvaterm_stiefvater on November 2nd, 2010 08:38 pm (UTC)
Well, I think I can still look at it objectively because for my first THIRTY novels, I was unpublished. And for two of my published novels, I was working full time as an artist and was squeezing in literally two hours of writing a week.

The difference is I never think it should be about word count. I understand that's the only thing that can really be quantified on a website, but I think a month's work of excellent first draft is more productive than a month's work of a crappy whole first novel. I think you learn more from that, based upon my years of writing crappy entire novels versus actually working on craft slowly.
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