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05 March 2009 @ 05:11 pm
80,000 words of Fun, Fun, Fun  
I promised I would blog about rough drafting, so here it is.

Here's the thing about rough drafting and revising. I like revising. I'm good at revising. i know what I'm doing when I'm revising. I know exactly what to expect when I'm revising.

On the other hand, writing a rough draft is unpredictable, inefficient, and uncertain. I delete as much as I save. I go down wrong paths, write embarrassing stretches of prose just to see my word count jump before I delete it, and kill characters that I later have to resurrect when I realize there is no one to hold my main character's hair while she pukes later (metaphorically speaking). I don't think I'm very good at it and it is intensely frustrating.

And, unfortunately, it's what I live for. Because in between all that uncertainty and general ectoplasmic horror, there are also stretches of writer's highs -- those thousands of words you write in an hour, your brain lost in the emotions and settings of your novel. Those scenes you write and you know right after you write them -- no, right when you write them -- that they're just spot on. You just don't get those while revising.

My love/ hate relationship is directly related to how far into the manuscript I am. Let me illustrate this point.

0-2,000 words: "The Frolicking Phase" My prose is genius. This idea is gold. Printz, here I come. You might as well sweep everything else off the endcaps at Barnes & Noble now, because they have a new name for them now: My Home. That is where this book will live.

2,001-10,000 words: "The Emo Phase" What was I thinking? I'm writing my own fanfiction. I would not know a timeline if it reached up and pinched my right butt cheek. How did I possibly think this plot could sustain 90,000 words of exploration? I don't even know how my characters speak anymore. No, how anyone speaks. I have completely lost the ability to write dialog. In fact, I can't speak myself. It is time to e-mail my agent and confess that the previous three books were flukes. I need to be taken out back and put out of my misery before my editor gets ahold of this directionless prose.

10,001-15,000 words: "The Slow Realization that You Did Indeed Write Crap Phase" You know, if I just pretend the first 10,000 words don't exist, I think I might have something here. It won't be genius, and it sure as heck still isn't easy, and I'm sad about not getting a Printz or renaming all end-caps My Home, but at least my editor might eventually be able to look at this draft without staggering back from his desk, twitching and vomiting. Hey, look! I just wrote two scenes, and it didn't even kill me!

15,001-18,000 words: "The HouseCleaning Phase" One of these days, I will have to show this to my critique partners, and if I send it out like this, they will have no idea what I am trying to do. Why? Because of the 10,000 words of crap that I started it with. But I love that intro. The Printz/ End Cap/ Genius . . . >DELETE<.

0-15,000 words: "The Rematch Phase" Wow, I feel a lot better now that I've rearranged and rewritten and hacked at those first 10,000 words, even if it means that I have an actually smaller wordcount than when I started. I think I might even have negative wordcount. But . . .this might be good.

15,001-18,000 words: "The First Epiphany Phase" I are a writer! I can do this fast! I love this - the angst, the passion, the sheer criminality of this character and the emo-city of this other one! I am having a WRITER HIGH!

18001-25,000 words: "The Trudge Phase" Still looking for another epiphany. Why do I do this to myself? I would've been a great lawyer. I like fighting with people. I can't believe I have to show this to my critique partners. I can't believe I have to show this to my agent. Farewell, mine credibility.

CRIT PARTNERS: "I'm kind of in love with it."
AGENT: "This is FABULOUS."
ME: "Really!? I'M A GENIUS."

25,001-35,000 words: "The Immersive Phase" Laundry does not exist. All that exists is Mercy Falls, Minnesota (ignore that I made it up) and the wolves in it (ignore that I made them up too).

35,001-45,000 words: "The Ittermittantly Brilliant Phase" WRITER HIGH! writer low. WRITER HIGH! writer low. WRITER HIGH!

45,001-60,000 words: "The Neverending Story Phase" I really ought to end this sometime. I mean, it is a young adult novel, not an encyclopedia. OMG. I am NOWHERE NEAR THE END OF THE PLOT.

*panic*

60,001-70,000 words: "The Fraying Thread Phase" I shall read the beginning again, to admire my flawless prose and AGHAGAHGHAHGH! How could I forget that plot thread that I introduced on page 47!? I am now left with a plot hole big enough to push an end cap through. You know what my editor will do when he reads this? First he will laugh helplessly and then he will buy every red pen that Bic has ever made and he will laugh helplessly while telling me that I will be revising for the rest of my life.

70,001-75,000 words: "The Subsconscious Rules Phase" But I didn't really forget that plot thread! Look how I subtly brought it up here and here without realizing it!? GOOD SUBCONSCIOUS. HAVE A COOKIE.

75,001-80,000 words: "The Sleepless Phase" I just want to get it done. I want to get it done I want to get it . . . it's over. I can't believe it's over.

*withdrawal*


So, yep. That's about it. It looks kind of psychotic written out like that. I would say that I'm not really psychotic, but right now I'm in the intermittantly brilliant phase of LINGER and I'm afraid psychotic is probably the best adjective for me right now, right after "caffeinated."

How about you guys? What does your drafting look like?

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Tessa Gratton: Shakespeare mofo[info]tessagratton on March 5th, 2009 10:48 pm (UTC)
I think you forgot The Angst Phase, which occurs repeatedly, in between each of the phases you *did* mention. Because I don't think you have accurately represented the level of angst this book has caused you.*

Despite how psychotic (and hilarious) your summary is. :p

*and of course by you I mean me.
Tessa Gratton: Reid sees things[info]tessagratton on March 5th, 2009 10:49 pm (UTC)
Also, I missed that icon. You should use it more.
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[info]ex_hallways on March 5th, 2009 10:51 pm (UTC)
right now im in phase 2. and i SUCK. haha. :D
Maggie Stiefvater: gypsy vanner[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 10:52 pm (UTC)
It doesn't matter what book I'm writing, the first 10,000 words are always BAD.
(no subject) - [info]ex_hallways on March 5th, 2009 10:55 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Mandy: boxcat[info]queenofthefae on March 5th, 2009 10:55 pm (UTC)
lol!

Writing sounds like way too much work for me!
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 10:56 pm (UTC)
Here's the problem: I have to do it. I have to! It's a compulsion. It's why I laugh when people say "maybe I'll write a novel." If you don't have to, why would you?
(no subject) - [info]queenofthefae on March 5th, 2009 11:00 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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pambachorz[info]pambachorz on March 5th, 2009 11:03 pm (UTC)
I love this post so much that I want to mix it with Vodka and suck it down with a straw. How did you call in my head? Right now I'm rapid-cycling between Frolicking and Emo and man do I feel both sickened and comforted that the road I see coming is... going to be just like this. Just like the last time.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 11:26 pm (UTC)
Yup. Yup. And vodka sounds good to me right about now.
wldhrsjen3[info]wldhrsjen3 on March 5th, 2009 11:03 pm (UTC)
::dies laughing:: I love that!

Here's what my drafting looks like:
!idea! Ooh, I love this. I can't wait to write!
Wait. I suck. ::headdesk::
Oh, but maybe if I... ::write madly::
Never mind. I still suck. ::headdesk::
But, what if I... ::write madly::
Nope. Still suck. ::headdesk::
Of course, I could... ::write madly::
Yeah. I suck, but I don't care. I need to write this story! :D

Heh. That's how my drafting seems to go...
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 11:27 pm (UTC)
Haha! That's um, sort of what mine is, but wordier.
mary pearson[info]marypearson on March 5th, 2009 11:03 pm (UTC)
love the phases. Only other phase I can think of is "this book is going to kill me if I don't kill it first" phase.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 11:27 pm (UTC)
I can definitely see that one fitting in write before the sleepless one for me.
Jennifer[info]brigidsblest on March 5th, 2009 11:03 pm (UTC)
25,001-35,000 words: "The Immersive Phase" Laundry does not exist.

Oh, how well do I (and my house) know this phase. My house weeps. I could spin yarn from the drifts of cat fur currently gathering on my kitchen floor, and then knit it into a sweater (if I knew how to knit).

However, the fact of the matter is that I have less than half of my final chapter to finish writing today, out of a 90K novel, and living in squalor will all seem worthwhile when I've finished it.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 11:28 pm (UTC)
Or if you could care enough about the real world to knit. ;p

And BOOYAH! CHUG CHUG! The end is in sight!
Tiffany Trent[info]tltrent on March 5th, 2009 11:04 pm (UTC)
Barring the agent comments, my phases are about the same, with an extra side of angst-sauce.

I also approve of the icon. ;)
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 11:29 pm (UTC)
I know you do! I'm pretty sure you're one of the ones who mentioned it to me!

And is it possible for someone to angst more than me? I'm not sure that's physically possible. . .
Julie Kagawa[info]sylverkit on March 5th, 2009 11:10 pm (UTC)
Ha, this sounds very familiar. Right now, I'm in the "OMG its the CLIMAX, I've got to bring it all together and make these people DO something!" phase. Followed by the "My book is such a horrid, horrid mess, please don't make me revise it all," phase.

We should write a book on this or somethin'. :D
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 11:29 pm (UTC)
Can you imagine the process on THAT book!?
kellyrfineman: written without effort[info]kellyrfineman on March 5th, 2009 11:11 pm (UTC)
Great process post. I cannot analyze my stuff in quite the same way. For the Jane project, which is a series of individual poems that relate a complete biography of Jane Austen, each poem is its own journey. The double sestina I wrote to summarize Pride & Prejudice took about 2 years and probably 100 hours of time to write. And I'd spend weeks working on four stanzas, only to figure out that I needed to completely wipe them out again later. Some other poems are vomited out in a down-draft that pretty much never changes, as if the poem just turned up one day.

What I do know is that the whole process is a bit of a mystery, and that it will all turn out well in the end. How? I don't really know.
Maggie Stiefvater: hunter[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 11:31 pm (UTC)
Well, I have to admit that I used to fool myself into thinking that each book process was a snowflake and that I didn't go through the same destructive AngstFestival every time . . . but I do. This is book number 4 in a year and a half, and it's definitely the same as always.

I can see how poems could vary really widely -- they're like chapters, and chapter by chapter my process is different.
Stephanie[info]scififanatic on March 5th, 2009 11:25 pm (UTC)
LOL! I loved this, particularly this line "I would've been a great lawyer." Only, in my head, I usually say something like, "I should have gone into advertising." LOL :)
Maggie Stiefvater: golden retriever[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 11:31 pm (UTC)
All of those alternate careers sound really good somewhere in the middle of the novel and also when I send it off to my agent or editor and am waiting for a verdict.
Sandy Williams[info]sandy_williams on March 5th, 2009 11:27 pm (UTC)
That's exactly what the emotional phases of my writing looks like. Right now, I'm sitting at the "OMG I'm nowhere near the end of the plot" phase.
Maggie Stiefvater: jack russell[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 11:32 pm (UTC)
Which seems to last FOREVER. Until it doesn't. All of a sudden.
Kym Brunner[info]kymbrunner on March 5th, 2009 11:32 pm (UTC)
Since I pseudo-plot my book out ahead of time, chapter by chapter, a sentence or two summary for what I think is going to happen, my commentary is more like, "Uh...this is so not what I thought was going to happen." "What am I doing?" "Okay...so she isn't selfish after all." The beginning chapters have character traits and dialogue that sound completely foreign to the character I've now created in the later chapters. It's definitely like a lump of clay that gets a lot of slicing and molding as it goes along.
Maggie Stiefvater: moose[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 11:33 pm (UTC)
YES to the character traits and dialogue that is just wrong, wrong, wrong. I spend the first 10,000 words figuring out how to say what I meant to say all along.

At the very least I have learned not to start writing until I have the end in my head. Before that? Woof . . .
Tessa Gratton: Narcissus[info]tessagratton on March 5th, 2009 11:34 pm (UTC)
I need to pay more attention so I can identify my patterns. Can fix something if I don't understand how it's broken!

... I'd tell you what phase I'm in right now with my draft, but I'm fairly certain Other Events are severely interfering with whatever "normal" pattern I have.

You know where I want to be, though? The Still Having Fun With It phase.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 11:38 pm (UTC)
I really couldn't tell you this pattern with my last WIP. I think I had to have written a bunch since I got set in my ways to figure it out. Your writing style has changed so much even since I met you, I think you probably won't see the patterns until the next one -- or even the one after that.
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[info]coloradowriter on March 5th, 2009 11:36 pm (UTC)
This is classic!
Maggie Stiefvater: kiss[info]m_stiefvater on March 5th, 2009 11:38 pm (UTC)
*grin*
Leisa Vincelette[info]fandoria on March 5th, 2009 11:54 pm (UTC)
I love this post! It made me laugh, but only because I can relate. I, myself, spend quite a lot of time in "The Intermittently Brilliant Phase" but I also dabble frequently in "The Trudge Phase," "The Immersive Phase," (that's where I'm currently at) and "The HouseCleaning Phase." I've also spent the past several months in "The Neverending Story Phase." But not in the sense of "I should end this sometime" but in the sense of "Will I ever reach the end in this lifetime because I'm so blasted slow at this!"
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 6th, 2009 12:38 am (UTC)
Heh!! All of these phases happen in quick succession for me as my last two deadlines have both been 90 days for rough drafts!
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boothyisawesome[info]boothyisawesome on March 6th, 2009 12:09 am (UTC)
Absolutely HILARIOUS. I loved this!! :) You rock.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 6th, 2009 12:38 am (UTC)
:) Thanks.
Julia Karr[info]juliakarr on March 6th, 2009 01:08 am (UTC)
HA! I love it!

My drafting is NaNo style - I barrel through & think go back later saying "What was I thinking?!"
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 6th, 2009 01:17 am (UTC)
ha! I think that no matter how long it takes me!
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Jilly[info]babytoaster on March 6th, 2009 02:17 am (UTC)
I write a draft, try to set realistic word goals with said draft. The first one is always by far the worst, rushed, horrible, piece of work ever. The second one goes along much nicer. The third tends to be just minor tweaking.

Not anywhere near as exciting of a process. lol
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 6th, 2009 02:28 am (UTC)
What can I say . . . I live dangerously. ;)
kusanar[info]kusanar on March 6th, 2009 02:48 am (UTC)
For me this drafting thing is a bit differnt. With short stories the drafting phase (to me) is rather simple and less drama filled. The novel draft is new to me and I am highly angsty with it. (I started my first novel last year)

So far my 'pattern' is write a bit, hate it all, make it work, hate it more, brain storm, erase and try and differnt angle. I'm only 12k in so far, but now that I finially have brain stormed the hell outta it, this should go a lot easier :)

~::Becca::~
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 6th, 2009 04:49 am (UTC)
Yeah, the first 10-15K is the hardest for me -- it's always just practice scratches for me. But I remember I started out writing very, very short. I never thought of them as short stories, but they were definitely too short to be proper novels.
bookluver_carol[info]bookluver_carol on March 6th, 2009 03:32 am (UTC)
Award
I nominated you for the Your Blog is Fabulous Award! :)

http://bookluver-carol.blogspot.com/2009/03/my-blog-is-fabulous-or-so-ive-been-told.html

Carol
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 6th, 2009 02:35 pm (UTC)
Re: Award
Yay! Thank you, Carol!
E.C. Myers: Ron typing[info]ecmyers on March 6th, 2009 03:34 am (UTC)
This is one of the best posts about the writing process ever! Thanks for encouraging me to push through my own "The Slow Realization that You Did Indeed Write Crap Phase".

I usually just keep writing, refusing to go back and edit anything because I could revise those early chapters endlessly and make no forward progress. If I decide something needs to be set up differently as I get farther along, I note it for later revision, then pretend that I've already made the changes from that point forward.

I think writers are forced to work in a constant state of delusion.
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 6th, 2009 04:51 am (UTC)
This is one of the best posts about the writing process ever! Really!? LOL. Because I wrote about 5,000 words today and figured my brain was too shot for further intelligence!

We are constantly delusional. It's the only way we can manage. It seems unfair that we can't write the beginning until we've written the end too. Someone should change that rule!
Kim: lamppost[info]cleareyedwolf on March 6th, 2009 03:57 am (UTC)
haha

It surprises me that you don't really like rough drafts. Rough drafts are my glory. However, this usually does not work in one's favor.

Reading what you wrote (very funny, btw) reminds me of when I did NaNoWriMo. You get to week 2 and it's the worst week of your life. It's always right after that first sprint of writing that things get really bad. They warned me in the NaNoWriMo book and I was still surprised by the desert of week 2. (If you haven't, you should try NaNoWriMo once in your life; you won't regret it.)

What I'm saying is, I know where you're coming from. THANK YOU for the insight into a real writer's thoughts/experiences.

Much love!
~Kim
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 6th, 2009 04:52 am (UTC)
THANK YOU for the insight into a real writer's thoughts/experiences.
I'm no more real than you, I just have editors! :D

And don't get me wrong -- I love the rough drafts . . . but there is way more angst/ pain associated with them than revising. It's sort of like a passionate love affair. Very high highs and very loooooowwwww lows.

I was going to try Nano this year when I got hit with revisions and prep work for LINGER. One year I will!
[info]ravelda on March 6th, 2009 05:39 am (UTC)
Hey, where's the pre-draft stage where you're poking around, plotting, sketching characters, and thinking you'd really better get to work rather than daydreaming about possible covers for your brilliant (and yet to be written) new novel? ;)
Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 6th, 2009 01:29 pm (UTC)
Well, I never really get out of that stage. ;p Like right now, I'm already poking and plotting and sketching around the next one in the queue.

I am not a faithful writer.
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Maggie Stiefvater[info]m_stiefvater on March 6th, 2009 01:31 pm (UTC)
HA! Apparently, it never gets easier!!!
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